TORO POS vs Lightspeed for Tobacco Shops
Comparing tobacco-specific POS vs high-end retail solution
The Key Difference
Lightspeed is a solid, professional retail POS used by high-end retailers worldwide. It’s not tobacco-specific, but it’s a legitimate competitor. The main questions: Does it justify the higher cost? Can it handle tobacco-specific needs? And do you need all the features you’re paying for?
Cost Comparison (3 Years)
Here’s the real total cost for a tobacco shop doing $50,000/month in credit card sales:
| Cost Category | Lightspeed (3 Years) | TORO (3 Years) |
|---|---|---|
| Upfront Cost | $0 | $5,000 |
| Monthly Software (36 mo) | $5,184 – $10,764 $144-299/mo × 36 |
$4,284 $119/mo × 36 |
| Processing Fees (36 mo) | $39,600 – $43,200 2.2-2.4% × $50k × 36 |
$36,000 2.0% × $50k × 36 Or $0 with fee passthrough* |
| Hardware | $1,500 – $3,000 iPad + accessories |
$1,200 Touchscreen terminal |
| Total 3-Year Cost | $46,284 – $56,964 | $46,484 Or $10,484 with fee passthrough* |
| *Fee passthrough = customers pay credit card fees, you pay $0 in processing costs | ||
Save $180 – $46,480 Over 3 Years
TORO is cheaper or comparable even before fee passthrough. With fee passthrough, TORO saves you $36,000 – $46,000.
Card-Not-Present Rate Comparison
Phone Orders: Ask Lightspeed for Their CNP Rate
Lightspeed CNP Rate
Ask Them
Varies by processor
Industry avg: ~3.6%
TORO CNP Rate
2.0%
Same rate as in-store
Estimated Annual Savings on $10k/month Phone Orders:
~$1,920/year
If Lightspeed charges industry avg 3.6%, TORO saves you $1,920/year
Ask Lightspeed for their exact CNP rate to calculate your actual savings
Note on Processing Rates:
Lightspeed’s processing rates vary by which processor you choose. We used industry average estimates (~3.6% for CNP).
Ask them directly for actual rates – and verify if rates are published or custom-quoted. See our industry average rate methodology.
No Price Increase Since 2013
TORO launched in 2013 at $5,000 + $119/month.
That’s still our price today. Zero increases in 13 years.
When was Lightspeed’s last price increase? Ask them.
Feature Comparison
Multi-Pack Inventory
Lightspeed
⚠️ Partial support via variants. Can use variants for pack sizes but requires setup. Not designed for tobacco – you’re adapting general retail features. Manual work to break up boxes.
Possible but not built for it
TORO
✅ Native tobacco support. Built specifically for selling cigars at multiple pack levels. One product, sell at any level, inventory auto-adjusts. Zero configuration needed.
Built for cigars from day one
Age Verification
Lightspeed
⚠️ Basic prompts available. Can configure age verification but it’s generic retail functionality. Not tobacco-specific. Staff can potentially bypass.
Generic compliance, not specialized
TORO
✅ Mandatory tobacco verification. Cannot complete tobacco transaction without ID check. Configurable age limits (18/19/21+). Non-bypassable. Built for tobacco compliance.
License protection built-in
Support Quality
Lightspeed
✅ Professional support. 24/7 phone/email support. Knowledge base, training resources. Good quality support – but generic retail, not tobacco-specific.
Quality support, general retail
TORO
✅ Tobacco expert support. Unlimited phone/email from tobacco retailers. We know how to handle cigars without barcodes. We understand humidor management. Real tobacco knowledge.
Tobacco-specific expertise
Platform & Integration
Lightspeed
✅ Cloud-based, multi-platform. iPad, web browser, Android. Access from anywhere. Huge app ecosystem. E-commerce integration. Modern cloud infrastructure.
Excellent platform and integrations
TORO
❌ Windows PC only. Local installation. Works fully offline. WooCommerce integration available. More limited than Lightspeed but more reliable.
Platform-limited but dependable
Reporting & Analytics
Lightspeed
✅ Advanced analytics. Comprehensive reporting, data visualization, business intelligence. Custom reports, export options. Very powerful reporting suite.
Enterprise-level analytics
TORO
✅ Tobacco-focused reporting. Sales, profit, inventory, customer analytics. Compliance reports for tobacco. All reports included – no tiered pricing. Focused on what tobacco retailers need.
Tobacco-relevant reports
What Lightspeed Does Better
- Enterprise features: Advanced reporting, business intelligence, analytics
- Cloud platform: Access from anywhere, mobile apps, web dashboard
- E-commerce: Native online store, not just integration
- App ecosystem: Hundreds of integrations with other software
- 24/7 support: Around-the-clock professional support
- Multi-location: Built-in support for multiple store locations
What TORO Does Better
- Tobacco-specific features: Multi-pack, age verification, compliance – all native
- Lower cost: $900-6,480 less per year in software fees
- Better processing rates: 2% vs 2.2-2.4% saves $3,600-7,200/year
- Fee passthrough: Option to pay $0 in processing fees
- Tobacco expert support: Help from actual tobacco retailers
- Simpler: Built for one purpose, not trying to serve all retail
6 Questions to Ask Lightspeed
Before choosing Lightspeed, ask them these questions directly:
- What is your exact in-store processing rate? (Depends on processor – get specifics)
- What is your card-not-present rate? (Phone/mail order rate – critical for phone sales)
- What is your online e-commerce rate? (If you do online sales)
- Do you make money from processing margins? (Are they marking up processing?)
- When was your last price increase? (Ask for pricing history)
- Why aren’t your rates published? (Or are they? Transparency matters)
If they won’t answer these questions clearly, that’s a red flag.
What Real Tobacco Retailers Say
“Lightspeed had great features but we didn’t need most of them. TORO gives us exactly what we need for tobacco.”
– Greg Zimmerman, VP PCA
Tobacco Company, Harrisburg PA
“Saving $6,000/year in software costs plus lower processing rates. TORO pays for itself.”
– John Anderson, President PCA
W. Curtis Draper, Washington DC
“The 2% CNP rate on phone orders is huge. Other systems charge 3.5% or more.”
– Stephen Rast
Tobacco Cabana, TX
“No price increases since 2013. That kind of stability and honesty is rare.”
– Eli Swett
SMoKE Cigar Lounge, PA
The Bottom Line
Lightspeed is excellent software – if you need what it offers.
The question is: Do you need enterprise-level analytics, multi-location management, and a huge app ecosystem? Or do you need tobacco-specific features like multi-pack inventory and mandatory age verification? Lightspeed is powerful but expensive. TORO is focused and affordable – built specifically for tobacco.
Choose TORO if you…
- Run a single tobacco shop or small chain
- Sell cigars in multiple pack sizes (stick/pack/box)
- Want tobacco-specific features, not general retail
- Prefer lower monthly costs
- Want tobacco expert support
- Value simplicity over enterprise features
Choose Lightspeed if you…
- Run multiple locations that need centralized management
- Need enterprise-level analytics and business intelligence
- Want built-in e-commerce, not just integration
- Tobacco is less than 50% of your sales
- Value platform flexibility over cost savings
- Need extensive third-party integrations
See TORO in Action
Schedule a demo and see how TORO’s tobacco-specific features compare to Lightspeed’s general retail approach – at a fraction of the cost.
